Every day I read online articles that tell me the older HP Designjet Plotters can not be used with the newer Windows 8 and Windows 10 (aka: Win8 or Win10). I say BS! I just today help another guy, Sam from Pennsylvania to connect his Designjet 750c to Windows 10. Sam asked me to log on to his screen and just get it connected. We downloaded the drivers from this site which I copied directly from HP some time back before they took them off their website. Then I showed Sam some of the tricks of the trade...how to resuscitate old cartridges, how to use the USB connection and how to change ports when necessary. When we were done Sam was printing with his old 750c Designjet! So call me today for help in connecting your older plotter to your newer Windows 8 or 10 operating system. I'll charge you $50 only if we are able to connect your computer to your plotter and get you printing! 651-247-3022 ask for The Princess!
How can I install non-digitally signed drivers in Windows 10? (see below for Win 8)
Windows 10 enforces driver signatures by default. What this means is you can download a driver from this site or others, but the driver signing requirement kicks in and "disables" the driver...you won't know it...it looks like it is there and functional. This is because drivers weren't signed back in the 90's! You might get a message that says something about a hash tag...but your downloaded driver won't work. YOU MUST DELETE THE DRIVER FROM YOUR SYSTEM AND REMOVE THE PRINTER FROM YOUR LIST OF PRINTERS. This can be disabled to install drivers that are not digitally signed. Use the following steps to disable driver signature enforcement.
NOTE: If this is all too intimidating or too much of a hassle you can call the Plotter Princess and for $50 I will remotely connect to your computer, download the drivers, install the printer/plotter and get your plotter to print a test print...so you can be sure you are properly connected and ready to get some work done!! Usually an appointment is not needed. Call 651-247-3022
How can I install non-digitally signed drivers in Windows 8?
Windows 8 enforces driver signatures by default. This can be disabled so non-digitally signed drivers can be installed. Use the following steps to disable driver signature enforcement.
When next you restart your computer after this the driver signing requirement will be back in force. That's a good thing because it saves you from viruses. Any driver on this site was copied from the original HP driver sites before those lovely folks at HP decided to get rid of them so people like you couldn't use those old plotters anymore!
NOTE: If this is all too intimidating or too much of a hassle you can call the Plotter Princess and for $50 I will remotely connect to your computer, download the drivers, install the printer/plotter and get your plotter to print a test print...so you can be sure you are properly connected and ready to get some work done!! Usually an appointment is not needed. Call 651-247-3022
HP Designjet 500 and 800 Series - Drawings or Images Are Shifted / Clipped in AutoCAD 2000, 200i or 2002
ISSUE: When printing an AutoCAD drawing/image on any of the HP Designjet 500 or 800 series printers using either roll or sheet fed media the drawing/image shifts and is clipped.
WORKAROUND: In Autocad 2000, 2000i and 2002, use the following steps:
Other possible causes include:
SUMMARY: The printer has hard margins of 17 mm leading and trailing edge, and a 5 mm left side and right side edge. The printer will offset the jobs 17 mm up and 5 mm in from the bottom-right corner. This may cause the document on the left and top side of the drawing/image to clip in portrait mode.
Here's a link to the HP website for the Designjet 500 and 800 to input the latest software into your wide format plotter. You can download from the HP site or download the file below. This is strictly for the 800 and the 500 not any others. The firmware is version 04.02. It works with these operating systems:
Here's a great page for finding and downloading the service manuals for HP Designjets. It is maintained by www.PartsNow.com.
HP has an amazingly simple little app that you can download and use with 500. 800, Z series and T series plotters. It is the HP Instant Printing Utility 3
It allows you to drag your file to the open application and click PRINT and it just simply prints....easy peasy.
It works with these operating systems:
Microsoft Windows 7 (32-bit)
Microsoft Windows Vista (32-bit)
Microsoft Windows Vista (64-bit)
Microsoft Windows 7 (64-bit)
Microsoft Windows 8 (32-bit)
Microsoft Windows 8 (64-bit)
Microsoft Windows Server 2012
Microsoft Windows 8.1 (32-bit)
Microsoft Windows 8.1 (64-bit)
Microsoft Windows 10 (32-bit)
Microsoft Windows 10 (64-bit)
Just another day, tripping over things that you might find useful while researching a new model. I'm getting a Z2100 ready in the workshop and it appeared that PDFs couldn't be printed...but I was wrong and had used the wrong driver. In the meantime I found this HP article about printing PDFs and decided to share.
I'm getting beautiful prints now...very happy!
I also figured out something else - It can use expired ink...you get alerts, but you can ignore them. I love plotters that can use expired ink!
My most asked question these days is how to use the older plotters with Windows 8 and 10. You CAN do it. I've helped lots of folks to do it. Just last week we put an old Designjet 650 on a Windows 10 computer!
Here's an article on how to do it.
I'd picked up a nice HP DJ 800 from a lovely couple from Windom who traded it in on a newly refurbished model. They'd said that in full disclosure they'd hired someone to replace the belt and after that repair the darned thing started popping up an error message they couldn't get rid of and they just wanted to NOT deal with it anymore. Thinking I'm the Plotter Princess of Lindstrom MN and I can fix anything I plug it in and instantly get the 21:10 error code. I take out the service station, disassemble it and clean it up and put it back into this lovely machine and darned if it didn't error with the 21:01 again. I tried another spare service station...it continued to give me the 21:10 error code throughout the evening and into the next day. I wasted a whole day changing the encoder strip and other hopeful things...and yet no relief. I was ready to scream when I stepped behind the plotter to plug it in one more time and noticed some pink insulation near the hole that's under the cover...see the pictures below for the rest of the story.
Yup, a mouse had been nesting in the HP Designjet 800! I'm sure she chose it because it had mousey sized holes and no human would ever bother her and the little growing family! The only thing that runs through that space is the ribbon cable...nothing else. The only reason I came to the back of the plotter to look more closely was because I'll read about on the HP Designjet Forum how that cable getting pinched can cause the 21:10 error code on the Designjet 800 and the Designjet 500. When I saw the ribbon was free of crimps I started to think about where the cable goes and looked at the little mouse holes! Mystery solved! Popped a new ribbon cable on this fine machine and instantly it asked for paper and ran a printhead alignment!
There's a great video on YouTube that shows you how to configure your Designjet 500 or 800 through the front panel to connect to your network. This assumes that your plotter has a network card installed.
Hello from England - and thanks for the blog
My question relates to oiling the rails when installing a new belt.
I took my 1998 2500CP plotter apart, took out the old belt, which was worn but not completely broken (No small job).
I put a new belt in and the carriage juddered as it went down the rails - it would not run smoothly - but only when under tension from the new belt.
I tried a few things, but in the end had to put the old belt back on - which works fine - so it probably wasn't an installation issue.
The (friendly) vendor is worried that I may have used the wrong lubricating oil.
Can you help with a simple guide to the best oils and grease to buy?
If you watch plotter servicing videos about changing belts etc , done by apparently specialist plotter guys, the impression given is that many light oils (including sewing machine oil), are OK. Some say do not use WD40 - except on the belt, according to one!
- and you too seem to suggest any light oil would be fine.
On the other hand - a HP official lubricating and cleaning video shows a product DB2-68 from the service kit.
Googling that I found an ebay seller wanting $275 for a bottle - mamma mia, can't be right - and why is the picture Photoshopped?
My 1998 2500CP has printer plodded on for many years with no fresh lubrication and the old belt now works OK again.
- so you would not think it was that fussy about lubrication
Incidentally, I probably should put some more of that pink silicone grease on the plastic gears too.
That product seems cloaked in mystery too and I suspect that one of the many third-party silicon greases would be fine.
A small and simple list of suitable compatible types of silicone grease and oil would be good!
Many thanks, Dominic
For more than six years I have exclusively used mineral oil (also known here as Baby Oil) for lubricating the rails. I have never had a problem with anyone over oiling and never had a problem with the rails drying. Sometimes when the carriage has dirt under the bushings I have taken a syringe and needle and directly squirted mineral oil 1-3 cc's under the bushing and then moved the carriage back and forth and then done it again. This will often cause old dust and dirt to show up on the rail as I move the carriage. If it does, I keep repeating until I don't see more dirt coming out from under the bushings.
They are right when they say don't use WD40...it turns to snot on the rails and makes an awful mess. You CAN use triflow or sewing machine oil. HP will sell you rail oil for $40 USD per ounce. But if you are going to throw away that money, send it to me and I'll sell you baby oil for that amount!
When I first get and old machine, I strip it down and clean up the inside of old dust and ink and then I remove the old belt and use a dental pick to take out black residue on the motor gear and on the tensioner wheel (if it is the style with three grooves around.) If you don't do this the gear teeth on the motor can't smoothly move the belt.
Next I empty the spittoon, if there is one and replace it adding a "Mr Clean Magic Eraser Sponge" as it will absorb lots of ink and keep it from overflowing if someone moves the machine in the wrong direction while relocating it in the future.
Now I put the new belt on and put 5-7 drops of oil on the rail and vigorously move the carriage all the way to the right and all the way to the left. I also put a few extra drops in front of the cutter on the rail and manually slide the cutter all the way across and back. After all this I wipe off the rail with a paper towel and look to see if there's lots of black residue, if there is I start over again with putting more oil on the rail and moving the carriage and cutter. I keep repeating until the rail is clean and nothing shows on the paper towel and then I add oil drops again and call it complete!
These machines are so sensitive to any friction on the rail that this cannot get too much oil or too much attention!
The white plastic gears don't really need anything...I've never seen any wear on these. However, I always scrape the pink grease off the edges and put it back on the gear surface as a good will gesture to the machine! But you can use any third party silicone grease. I've also used silicone plumbers grease.
I see these old machines like classic cars and give them so much attention when I'm rehabilitating and refurbishing them. They are like beautiful old ships and almost as big! I call them "she" just like they were boats...and when they don't work they are just big boat anchors!!!
The only other thing that I can think of that might cause juddering/shuddering would be if you put the bushings for the carriage on backwards. I've only seen that once before and it didn't move as smoothly as it should.
I'm getting lots of calls and emails from those who have uploaded the new Windows 10. Can you use your plotter with Windows 10? GOOD NEWS - HP has published Windows 10 drivers for many of the newer plotters. Alas, we don't see them publishing for the older (700's, 600's, 200's) plotters.
First go to the Designjet page on the HP.com website and choose the series for your plotter. On the next page choose your specific model and go to the driver page. If your plotter is supported in Windows 10 you'll see a driver listed in the operating system drop down menu. If you don't see one, it appears that it isn't going to work in Windows 10.
But--wait! Go here to find out how to make this work!
I've been working hard in my workshop trying to get a plotter to work. It is a Designjet 500 that I purchased from someone who stated "The belt has been replaced but it still needs some adjustment." What he didn't say was that HE'D replaced the belt himself and he didn't have a clue what he was doing. When I took the covers off I found many parts that were loose and missing screws. I kept running the printhead alignment and it kept failing. Everything was back together properly, but it just wasn't able to align. So "Googled" it and found this HP forum posting...Now, I never take the bushings off the carriage when replacing a belt. But it appears the seller of this machine had! I switched them around and yes, the alignment came out perfect! So if you are in the same situation and it is possible that the bushings have been switched, give it a try.
Re: Double Lines being Printed - Designjet 500
02-01-2010 08:46 PM
Here's my solution to the common double printing, blurred images on the Designjet 500 & 800.
When the carriage was removed to install a new belt, I had also removed the two "C" shaped bushings as well, one on each side of the carriage. I didn't need to, but thought I could get the carriage off without removing the right-hand side cap and service-station... BTW, you DO need to.
Anyway... when they were reinstalled, they were swapped accidentally left for right (they only go in one way) and they fit pretty loosely in the carriage when they are swapped.
The resulting slop will allow the carriage to "cock" on the carriage return, and since it prints in both directions, the result is two images, identical, but shifted and produces a "blurry" or double-printed output.
We pulled the carriage again today, and sure enough, they were installed backwards. When the bushings are inserted in their little cavities correctly, it is a very light 'press-fit'. They will fit snugly, and will not fall out if you tilt the carriage left or right. You then secure them with the one small screw and washer for each side.
Buttoned the plotter up, and did a plot... voila!! Perfect plot without even doing a head alignment or anything!!!
It's worth a try... if you didn't remove these bushings, then I don't have any solutions for you. It's an elusive problem, but this repair sure fixed our broken plotter.
Sure beats buying a new $450 carriage assy.!!
We now have a JetDirect card installed that works well with the plotter. I have also pulled down the OS-X driver for the plotter. The latest version for OS-X Yosemite was posted on April 23, 2015. So, it looks like they will be keeping the drivers current for both the Mac and Windows.You can tell your customers that the DesignJet 500 definitely supports the latest Macs. Rick
And here's the link: _
So I'm trying to decrease my inventory of 24" plotters and to do that I've slashed prices. While they last you can get a 24" refurbished HP Designjet 450c or 750c for only $200. They all pint well and will work fine with Windows 7 and XP. Call quick before they are gone. You can still get a "to scale" blueprint from these IF your plans are usually 22" or 23" by 34". Give me a call and we can discuss. 651-247-3022
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I continue to be shocked at the condition of plotters that people bring to me to fix...Seriously folks, you need to keep your plotter free from dust, dirt, dust bunnies, sawdust, clay dust, concrete dust, etc. That stuff gets on the carriage rail and these machines are very sensitive to any resistance on the carriage rail. You'll get error messages that may or may not look like they relate to any problem with the rail. These plotters will often give a totally unrelated error message for many problems, so you can't always be sure.
A plotter I worked on last week was giving 79:04 error codes and 86:01 and yet the plotter just needed to have the covers removed and all the collected years of dust removed...a spray can of compressed air and a big fluffy paint brush and we were back in business. No more error messages.
If you have your plotter in an environment that is going to be dusty, make sure to cover it. I use big flannel backed tablecloths from the dollar store and a friend uses a big outdoor grill cover. You could even make it out of clear vinyl.
If you are using it so much that you don't want to cover it, at least use the compressed air can and blow it all out every month. And when you are done with the blow out wipe down the rail and put 3-4 fresh drops of mineral oil, baby oil or 3in1 oil on the rail...be careful not to get the oil on the silver encoder strip...if you do wipe it off with a soft piece of cloth. Do not scrub the encoder strip!
With just a little love and attention your plotter will continue to produce for many years!
I love HP INSTANT PRINTING utility! Last night I was getting the blue screen of death as I tried to print a PDF that I've printed a hundred times...A search of Google shows me that this is a common complaint when printing to a Designjet 500 or other brands of plotters with ADOBE. A good way around this is to use the HP Instant Printing utility. It is a nifty little piece of software that HP puts out and you can use almost any OS and almost any plotter with it. Find the download HERE.
(From HP Website)
Below is a list of configurable parameters and the steps to set the TCP/IP parameters using the front control panel for each family of printers.NOTE: Some models, such as the Designjet 10ps, 20ps and 50ps printers, do not have the ability to configure the print server using the front control panel. If any other model is not listed in this document, it can be assumed that it does not have this ability.
Click here for information about how to configure the Jetdirect print server in these printers.
In addition, the following links will provide downloads for firmware upgrades and for creating print queues and configuring the Jetdirect print servers.
Click here for links to download HP software solutions.
Click here to download HP Download Manager software to upgrade the Jetdirect firmware.
Configurable TCP/IP parametersThe following basic TCP/IP parameters can be configured using the front control panel of the printer. See the specific printer models headings below for the steps on how to change these.
Configuring TCP/IP on the HP Designjet 600, 650, 700, 750, 755, and CP series printersNOTE: A delay of approximately 30 seconds may be expected between each step.
To print a Service Configuration page from an HP Designjet 600, 650, 700, 750, 755Print a Configuration, Service Configuration, or Service Print to verify the TCP/IP configuration:
To print a Service Configuration page from an HP Designjet 2000/2500cp or 3000/3500cp
Configuring TCP/IP on the HP Designjet 5000, 5500, 800, and 500 series printersNOTE: A delay of approximately 30 seconds may be expected between each step.
To print a Service Configuration page from an HP Designjet 5000 or 5500
To print a Service Configuration page from an HP Designjet 800 and 500For these HP Designjet printers with an optional HP-GL/2 accessory card :
Without the HP-GL/2 accessory card , the HP Designjet 500 will not produce a Service Print. However, some Jetdirect information is available by viewing the control panel. Follow the steps below to retrieve this information:
Configuring TCP/IP on the HP Designjet 1050c, 1050c Plus, 1055cm, or 1055cm Plus front control panel when using a 600n cardNOTE: A delay of approximately 30 seconds may be expected between each step.
Configuring TCP/IP on the HP Designjet 1050c, 1050c Plus, 1055cm, or 1055cm Plus front control panel when using a 610n, 615n, or 620n cardNOTE: A delay of approximately 30 seconds may be expected between each step.
To print a Service Config from HP Designjet 1050c or 1050cm
Configuring TCP/IP on the HP Designjet Colorpro series printers
Again, thanks to Martin Lavender for sharing his experience!
"After the replacement small reduction belt the printer worked well except that at one point the document lines were jagged across a two inch section of the document. It turns out that there was some dirt/oil on the encoder strip but this has now been cleaned with a damp tissue and dried thoroughly and very carefully not to cut yourself! This has resolved the problem."
Thanks to Martin Lavender for this tip:
The small belt is the most common cause of the error message "Switch Power Off, Check Pen Path". This message can occur when the small belt has worn down, or even snapped. The small belt is located on the right hand side of the plotter. It drives off the motor, to a double pulley assembly, which in turn drives the pen carriage assembly. Tension is applied to it by the idler puller and tensioner assembly. You may notice your printer sounding noisy as the pen carriage moves, which is an indication that this belt may require replacement.
This part is for the DesignJet 200 220 600 and the more popular 650C. Small belt - Part Number 1500-0855
Routine Driver Alert - Apr 23 2015
Mac HP Designjet Raster Driver (ver 30.0)
Products: HP Designjet Printers
Description: This software will install the raster driver that will allow you to print to your HP Designjet printer from your Mac computer.
I try to occasionally check the website statistics and see what questions brought people to www.MyOldDesignjet.com. Then I find so many more questions and feel like I should answer them ASAP because I know how frustrating it can be to have a machine that is behaving badly!
Here's the latest batch:
ISSUE: Plotting times for the HP Designjet 650C Printer.
SOLUTION: The actual plotting time for virtually any final-quality, E-size plot using bond, translucent, or vellum in monochrome mode is about 7 minutes; for color it is under 9 minutes. Draft modes are slightly more than half as fast; enhanced mode takes about twice as long. Film plotting takes slightly longer than enhanced mode on paper. But plotting time is only one component of throughput.
Transmission speed, rasterization speed, and ink drying times must also be considered. Because the HP Designjet 650C printer rasterizes as it plots, transmission time is a function of the type of data accepted. Transmission speed is the main variable in determining total throughput.
Plots Per Day/Duty Cycle
ISSUE: The number of plots per day that may be produced with the HP Designjet 650C printer.
SOLUTION: The HP Designjet 650C printer is designed for the user who averages 20 to 40 plots per day; however, the HP Designjet 650C printer can handle up to 100 plots per day for occasional or unexpected project deadlines.
ISSUE: The part that would wear out first if running the HP Designjet 650C printer 24 hours a day.
SOLUTION: The first part(s) to wear on the HP Designjet 650C printer will most likely be the belts, followed by motors. Overall design of the HP Designjet 650C printer is very robust.
Questions about RAM
ISSUE: The maximum amount of total RAM that will fit in the HP Designjet 650C printer.
SOLUTION: The Total RAM capacity is 68 MB. Four megabytes come standard, and the printer has two slots for additional memory. The amount of RAM can always be verified via the statistics menus in the front panel or by plotting the config plot.
ISSUE: Purchasing HP Designjet 650C printer expansion memory from HP.
SOLUTION: At this time, HP supports only the D3578A (32 MB), D2297A (16 MB), C3133A (8 MB), and C3132A (4 MB) SIMMs for use in the HP Designjet 650C printer. HP's 16 MB and 32 MB SIMMs are supplied by Samsung, but HP only uses memory which meets HP standards of quality and reliability. HP does not recommend or support the use of memory from other vendors. If customers use other vendors' memory boards and there is a problem, HP will only support the printer if the memory is removed or the customer replaces the memory with HP certified memory.
ISSUE: There are two RAM SIMM slots. Does it matter which slot the RAM SIMM is installed in?
SOLUTION: Yes. If only one RAM SIMM module is installed, it must be installed in the bottom slot. If two memory modules are installed, it is recommended that the first board be installed in the top slot. The second board can then immediately be installed in the lower slot (product design requires that if the two boards are installed, the top one goes first).
Number of Vectors
ISSUE: The number of vectors that may be stored in the 4 MB provided with the HP Designjet 650C printer.
SOLUTION: Approximately 900K vectors, after file processing.
Out of Memory Message
ISSUE: What happens when trying to download a file that is too big to fit in memory.
SOLUTION: The front panel will display the message 'out of memory/data was lost.' This indicates that additional memory must be installed to plot this drawing.
Raster and Vector File Memory
ISSUE: Is the memory capacity the same for vector and raster files?
SOLUTION: The HP Designjet 650C will download as much raster-only data as will fit in the memory before beginning to plot (3.5 MB using the printer's standard 4MB memory). There is no need for a complete raster file to be downloaded to memory before plotting because raster data is plotted without a vector to raster conversion. The advantage to adding memory for raster files is to free up the computer more quickly.
Resolution and Print Modes
ISSUE: The differences between the draft, final, and enhanced plot modes.
SOLUTION: Draft mode provides an ink savings of 50 percent in both monochrome and color, depending on the CYMK or RGB mix of the color plot. In addition, draft plotting speeds are faster (see question on Plot Times in previous section). Final mode provides high quality plots at 300 x 300 dpi (dots per inch) (see resolution chart below) in both monochrome and color. The final monochrome plot mode double dots (2 drops of ink per pixel) in order to provide a darker image-essential for reproduction. The enhanced plot mode for monochrome uses a 600 dpi vector-to-raster converter to map dots onto a 600 dpi grid. Because this process requires two print cartridge carriage passes, this plot mode takes twice as long. Enhanced mode in color is still 300 x 300 dpi but requires two passes of the pen carriage in order to control such aspects as color-to-color banding.
ISSUE: Addressable color on the HP Designjet 650C.
SOLUTION: There is no addressable color. There is an enhanced mode for color, but it is not a 600-dpi-quality mode.
ISSUE: How the enhanced plot mode works in color.
SOLUTION: The color plot mode is a uni-directional two pass mode. This means that the ink cartridge carriage crosses the media four times, but it only plots (fires ink) in one direction (left to right) and merely re-traces in the other (right to left). In enhanced mode, the printer advances the media half the distance it would in final mode. So the first pass of the carriage (where ink is fired) only plots approximately 50 percent of the information contained in that particular pass or swath, while the second pass plots the remaining 50 percent of the information. This 'interlacing' of data reduces the risk that swaths plotted in one pass (with a full swath advance) will not meet to form a continuous image. This reduces banding. Enhanced mode also improves color bleed, because the media has less ink to absorb at one time.
Scatter Halftone Dithering Pattern (C285XB Models Only)
ISSUE: How the new scatter halftone dither pattern works, and how it is superior to the pattern used in the original HP Designjet 650C.
SOLUTION: The original HP Designjet 650C (C2858A/C2859A) used "pattern" halftone which used an 8 x 8 dither cell. The enhanced HP Designjet 650C (C2858B/C2859B) uses a new halftone pattern known as "scatter" halftone which uses a 128 x 128 dither cell. Scatter halftone results in area fills that are much smoother, and sharper colored lines and text.
NOTE: The enhanced models still support the original "pattern" halftone to ensure compatibility of software and drivers. Changing from one halftone pattern to the other from the front panel is possible, or via some drivers, such as the new Windows and AutoCAD drivers which ship with the printer.
ISSUE: How scatter halftone interacts with HP RTL. If a file sending down "dumb raster," will the printer's internal dither matrix affect the quality of the output?
SOLUTION: In the case of 3-bit and 4-bit color, the information has already been halftoned before it is sent to the printer, so the scatter halftone dither does not interact with the data coming in. In the case of 8-bit and 24-bit color, the scatter halftone pattern of the printer does affect the data, and these plots are dithered by the scatter halftone algorithm.
Connecting To A Network
ISSUE: How to connect an HP Designjet 650C to a network.
SOLUTION: There are two main methods to connect a printer to a network: using the HP Jetdirect (or third-party) modular interface (MIO) cards which plug into the slot on the back of the printer and connect the printer directly to the network, or to connect the printer to a network via a file server.
ISSUE: The benefits of using an HP Jetdirect card and connecting directly to the network.
SOLUTION: The benefits of direct network connection via HP Jetdirect cards include:
Modular Interface (MIO) Questions
ISSUE: Are all of the HP Jetdirect cards for the HP Designjet 650C compatible with the HP Designjet 600?
SOLUTION: No. The HP Designjet 600 does not support the LocalTalk Jetdirect card nor the EtherTalk protocol on the multi-protocol Ethernet cards.
ISSUE: Support for using an HP Designjet 650C with LANtastic for a network operating system.
SOLUTION: The printer may be used with LANtastic by connecting it to a server.
ISSUE: The level of MIO implementation used in the HP Designjet 650C.
SOLUTION: 5.0, the same as the HP LaserJet 4.
Maximum Interface Cable Lengths
ISSUE: The maximum cable length that can be used for the parallel or serial interfaces.
SOLUTION: 10 ft. (3 m) for Centronics parallel, and 50.0 ft (15.2) for RS-232-C serial. If a non-HP Centronics cable is being used data may be lost during transmission.
ISSUE: Can the HP Designjet 650C printer queue or spool plots?
SOLUTION: Yes, the HP Designjet 650C supports the same functions and menu settings as the HP Designjet 600, including Move To Top, Copies (up to 99), and Delete a Plot. The queue only holds four previously plotted files, so in order to perform any of the above functions (except delete), retrieve the plot before it is flushed from the queue. The printer cannot queue PostScript files and other plots with raster data.
Multiple Copy Capability
ISSUE: Replotting or making multiple copies of a file.
SOLUTION: This is possible. From the Plot Management menu select Queue Mgmt and move the desired plot to top of queue. Select the number of copies desired (copies=nn).
Expanded Margins Capability
ISSUE: When to use expanded margins.
SOLUTION: Expanded margins allow plotting closer to the leading and trailing edges of the media. Expanded front and back margins are 10 mm, versus 17 mm for normal margins. Side margins are always 5 mm. Note that the Expanded Margins setting is available on roll media only, and the printer will not cut the plot until the next plot is sent.
Raster Files Cannot Be Rotated or Nested
ISSUE: Why a user is unable to rotate or nest a plot file that includes raster data.
SOLUTION: Files containing only raster or mixed raster and vector data cannot be rotated. Raster data must be received as a continuous stream; it is not sorted and re-mapped as vector data is.
Media Bypass Feature
ISSUE: When to use Media Bypass.
SOLUTION: Media bypass is used only in those situations where a customer has poorly cut single sheet media which fails during a media loading. Media Bypass=On allows a single sheet with up to 1.0 cm of edge skew to be loaded. Those using the Media Bypassmust accept the risk of plotting off the edge of the media and re-adjust their software margins accordingly. Media bypass also increases the risk of paper jams. HP recommends HP media for those who cannot purchase quality media in their region.
Logic Seeking Feature
ISSUE: What is logic seeking?
SOLUTION: Logic seeking is a feature that allows the printer to move the ink cartridges and carriage over only those areas where the image will plot. Since, the carriage does not need to make the entire trip across the media width and length, the logic seeking feature helps speed up overall plotting time.
Thinnest Line Thickness
ISSUE: The thickness of the narrowest line on the HP Designjet 650C.
SOLUTION: The HP Designjet 650C can plot lines as fine as 0.08mm (1 pixel). This line width can be selected from the front panel by using the printer pen palette and selecting 0.13mm line widths. Front-panel line widths are expressed in terms of ISO standard line widths, actual line widths vary slightly, especially in color dot on dot plotting.
Common AutoCAD Driver Disk Questions
ISSUE: The difference between the drivers shipped with the HP Designjet 650C and the ones a computer's software already has.
SOLUTION: HP recommends using the HP-GL/2 driver for AutoCAD shipped with the HP Designjet 650C.The drivers shipped with the printer have customized documentation files that explain the proper HP Designjet 650C setup and usage, and they list the HP Designjet 650C as a supported device.
ISSUE: What driver should be used with the AutoCAD LT?
SOLUTION: AutoCAD LT is essentially AutoCAD Release 12 for Windows with reduced functionality. The user should use the HP Printer driver HP-GL/2 and RTL for Windows.
ISSUE: Using the Pause button.
SOLUTION: Pause is used to interrupt the queue to allow the user to make changes to the printer (menu settings, media type, new pens, etc.). Once Pause is pressed, the printer will complete the current drawing but will not begin the next plot. To resume plotting, simply press the Pause button again.
ISSUE: When to use the 'Color/Mono' button.
SOLUTION: The Color/Mono button switches between monochrome, or grayscale, mode and color mode. When the color LED is lit, the printer plots any portions of the plot defined in color as the color defined. When the mono LED is lit, any portion of the plot defined in color is plotted in grayscale at monochrome plotting speeds. This feature allows a user to plot and check a color drawing in monochrome mode, using less time and less color ink, before plotting the final drawing in color.
This setting affects data as it is received by the printer. To change a specific drawing from monochrome to color or vice versa, switch the Color/Mono setting and re-transmit the file.
No Switching Between Print Modes
ISSUE: Changing between print modes without re-transmitting the plot file.
SOLUTION: It is not possible to switch between draft, final and enhanced modes during plotting; each print mode uses a unique print algorithm for the black pen. The printer will wait until the current plot is completed before switching into the selected mode.
Once the print mode is changed, the print mode LED will flash. If queuing is turned on, retrieving the previously plotted file from the negative queue and replotting it is possible using the newly selected print mode.
Difference Between Full and Short Menus
ISSUE: The difference between Full and Short Menus.
SOLUTION: The short menu is a factory defined, abridged version of the printer's menu selections. The short menu was designed to reduce the amount of user intervention required by providing quicker access to the most commonly used functions.
ISSUE: Defining a new Short Menu.
SOLUTION: This is not possible. The Short Menu is defined at the factory. It is possible to change to the Full Menu via the Utilities sub-menu in the front panel.
Installing the HP Designjet 650C printer with Postscript on the Macintosh
ISSUE: What is needed to install and configure the PostScript solution for use with the Macintosh?
SOLUTION: Here are the steps necessary to begin plotting on the Macintosh using the HP Designjet 650C printer:
This should be all that is necessary to run the printer from the Macintosh. This procedure is similar if not identical to connecting a Paintjet XL300 or Deskjet 1200C to the Macintosh.
ISSUE: Support for the ColorSync on the Macintosh driver.
SOLUTION: The Macintosh driver does not support ColorSync, Apple’s new system for color matching.
ISSUE: Does the HP Designjet 650C come with an installation and set up contract?
SOLUTION: No. HP believes users prefer to save money and install their own product. The ease of set-up of the HP Designjet 650C is similar to that of a pen printer and does not require an engineer.
Transporting the Product
ISSUE: Once the HP Designjet 650C is assembled, how can it best be safely transported to the customer site?
SOLUTION: The HP Designjet Series printers have been rigorously tested and are designed to be rugged. However, if the product is to be transported after assembly for any distance (more than 1 city block or over rough cement terrain), certain precautions need to be observed. The media bin legs, casters, and topcase are susceptible to damage. Types of damage include the following:
HP DesignJet 650C on Windows 7 x64 via LAN with JetDirect Adapter
10-27-2013 08:15 AM
With a JetDirect card installed in the 650c do the following:
Connect the 650c to your router with a LAN cable. Next, on the front panel press Enter, then down arrow three times to get to I/O Setup, Enter, Modular Setup, Enter, Cfg Network=NO, Enter, uparrow to Yes, Enter. At this point theCfg Network=NO* will reappear, this is normal. Press Previous to return to the main status menu. Next press Enter, down arrow until you get to Utilities, Enter, down arrow to Config Plot, Enter. Once the plot finishes look about half way down the page for the MIO setup information, the IP address for the plotter will be available on the right side of the page.
At this point your plotter is configured and ready, next get the driver installed on your PC. You can install the XP x64 drivers as described in this post, these drivers work fine for Windows 7 x74 (and also Windows 8 x64).
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